YOUR 37 TRILLION CELLS ARE NOT YOUR OWN!!! Author Tom Oliver and songwriter Sally Seltmann talk Self

We're delighted to have the wonderful Sally Seltmann come on for this episode. She is an award-winning songwriter with a canon of amazing songs—including Feist's worldwide smash 1234.    

We talk with writer Tom Oliver about his book 'The Self-Delusion' and how science doesn't justify our claims for any sort of individuality.   

Stream the song 'Your Energy' which was inspired by the conversation: